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Contact lenses and retinal scanners

Currently you need to remove your contact lenses in order to use retinal scanners. This means that your disguise is basically useless the moment you earn any level of access to privileged faction doors since you need to remove your disguise in order to use the retinal scanners. I’d like to suggest that this is changed and in general, wigs and lenses receive a little bit of love.
That's… kinda the point of retinal scanners over say hands or codes? You could try social engineer your way past the doors.
I mean scanning your eyes for doors you would already have access to, not earning access through the lenses. If you have a good disguise with lenses it doesn’t make sense to have to remove your entire disguise just to access the door you would have access to anyway.

Contact lenses are transparent and would not interfere with retinal scanners. Of course the actual technology is handwavy but it doesn’t read the surface of your eye, and the light used would easily go through the lenses.

I mean ….I think the point of scanners is you have your retinas undisguised to use them so your work knows it is you? Unsure why this is an issue.
Like in most places if you are shrouded and disguised in a secure area the VNPCs would probably be alerted, I would think.
Lenses and wigs are NOT like hoodies and ponchos.

They allow you to impersonate other people (and even change your name) while looking like a regular human being and not walking around with a hoodie or a blanket covering your entire face. Your face is visible and if no one is the wiser then no one would know you are disguised, unlike hoodies and ponchos which by design, tell others that you are disguised 100% of the time.

By forcing me to remove my disguise and reveal my identity then I basically can't do any kind of cool subterfuge with the disguise. My argument is that the scanner should still read biometrics as it does, but the lenses should not interfer with the scanner and it should just read my biometrics directly.

Lenses DO NOT cover retinas.

A retina scan will look through your pupils and at the back of your eyes for the pattern of your blood vessels which is unique to you. A colored lenses only covers the iris (the colored part of your eyes), leaving the pupil open and undisturbed for a scanner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Schematic_diagram_of_the_human_eye_en.svg

I'm not looking into realism here, because those arguments in context of made up games are just an endless parade that leads pretty much nowhere, as everyone has arbitrary and different point of cutoff for when game is more important.

And I do not think that lenses need that boost as far as I can tell. They can already be very powerful, and as there is no real counter mechanic to them icly (we do not have a way to see-through a disguise) it mens that in some settings it's impervious.

If we add some perception checks that counter the disguise as a balancing factor then sure, why not.

What about a system where if you verify on a retinal while wearing contacts, it auto-subtracts a use from the lenses, villa?
I think this is a good idea. As it stands making use of disguise items is a little limited in scope. I believe Villas argument is also the reason you can't open doors with a gouged eye. I don't know what thread of forum here I read that in though.
Seems like something that should be possible. The idea behind them is being able to pretend you are someone else. If we are preventing that now, it kinda defeats the purpose.
Is this about being disguised while wearing contacts, or wearing contacts as a fashion piece - using your own display name still?

If it’s about being seen as disguised while wearing contacts… it’s also impossible to use the bank or sell items to NPCs while wearing contacts/wig that changes your display name because the system thinks you’re disguised.

I mean, you - are - disguised, but the NPCs buying stuff shouldn’t be able to know that. Sorry for the double post.

I've updated the code to support contact lenses, and crate delivery, selling items to NPCs, and a few other scenarios that were brought up here. It doesn't work at the bank, and you can ICly explain that by saying that like, the bank uses facial recognition or some shit, I dunno. See the August '25 Updates thread for more info.