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Let's make the hard times not so hard

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Let's all admit. We play or have played characters that are assholes, or some down right evil. Our characters can do some pretty horrendous things to one another and as a result it can cause a bunch of bleed.

That's why I'm suggesting Bleed Watch, A sort of command you can mark a player with if you are going to do something to them you know could cause them to spiral IRL. Now you wouldn't be able to see it and neither will anyone else, who it would be visible too would be the admins, So they can address the situation as it plays out and so it doesn't damage the game world, and possibly so the player doesn't just quit.

What do you guys think?

By Rillem at Jul 16, 2025, 7:16 AM | 0
Can just @note that stuff.
By Cowbell at Jul 16, 2025, 7:17 AM | 0
Yes but is that enough to inform ever admin I knew they read them but as someone who works in a field where there are a bunch of reports and notes, Not all of them get read and a lot fall through the cracks.
By Rillem at Jul 16, 2025, 7:19 AM | 0
The GMs read player notes. They consistently run the command to check for new alerts when they're online, so they don't miss any that come through.

This would just be another thing to do the same thing as a note or an xhelp, and ultimately, it's up to players to recognise their own bleed and prevent their IRL spirals. Most that we can do is tell them to go take a break, and I don't think playing therapist over xhelp is what any of the GMs ideally want to do when they could be processing puppets and trying to run plots.

This could probably be worded better, but I'm tired and I think my point gets across.

By Mench at Jul 16, 2025, 7:28 AM | 0
I think this is also a weird way to put a stigma on someone playing.

You don't know how I'm going to handle it in the OOC space.

You don't know if this "spiral" is me playing my character or me crashing out at my computer. I would rather not have someone else, especially players, stick a digital tag on me based on their own expectations.

By Mindhunter at Jul 16, 2025, 8:54 AM | 0
I appreciate the sentiment of this a lot. It goes a long way to reminding players that this is a GAME and that EVERYONE is entitled to having their own fun. And honestly I feel that the community as a whole has dramatically improved on this from the time I first started playing. It is feeling more like a place to roleplay as opposed to a sadism simulator that it was in the past.

However here is the issue I see here.

If I know my actions may cause someone to go into an IRL spiral, it leads to questions about how I know who this person is IRL. I personally hate to admit it, but my extremely rough OOC mentality and sharpness to my tone is because I want to distance myself as far as I can from wanting to be friends with any of you. That's my own personal OOC baggage from having trust in "friends", but yeah the moment I start caring about how Rillem is going to personally take me stranding them in Vegas without limbs it shows that I'm a bit past where I should be reporting a conflict of interest in RP.

And also ultimately if they are showing signs of IC bleed then speaking from experience they have been bleeding for awhile and it's now starting to stain the clothing.

As was pointed out, this would be nothing more than another type of @note or xhelp, and considering that the staff are reading those characters deepest and darkest thoughts on a regular, I'm fairly certain they're more aware of who is taking things a bit harder than they should. Adding the implication of "They're bleeding…" means that something should be done about it, and I don't think we should say that staff should be responsible for everyone not loving their black tar heroin.

By Risikio at Jul 16, 2025, 9:15 AM | 0
At the end of the day, managing bleed is the responsibility of the person experiencing it -not the person they're RPing with.

I have a long and messy history with bleed in this game, and there are players who seem to thrive on pushing me to the edge, even making me consider perming out. And you know what? That's okay. They're having their fun, and if their style of play affects me, it's on me to figure out how to deal with it. It's not my place to ruin their enjoyment.

I've gotten better at recognizing when I need a break. I just log out when things get too heavy, and that's been working for me. I used to think that when someone played aggressively or antagonistically, it was meant to spark RP - and that if it didn't lead anywhere, I must've been doing something wrong. But the truth is, some people just enjoy playing sharp-edged characters. Whether it leads to RP or not, that’s their prerogative.

Deal with your own bleed.

By QueenZombean at Jul 16, 2025, 11:40 AM | 0
Jeez was just trying do something positive. Didn't expect this level of backlash. Fair enough, If I could delete a post I would.
By Rillem at Jul 16, 2025, 11:42 AM | 0
As someone who bleeds hard, I appreciate your thoughts though
By QueenZombean at Jul 16, 2025, 11:45 AM | 0
There's no need to apologize. You're actually looking out for your fellow players which is appreciated. There have been times that I've actually wanted for someone to check in on me as I RPed out some of the stuff my toon was going through.

It's just that some things have to be on the player to deal with the mental repercussions of putting your psyche on the line in a place like the Dome. Not everyone can walk off ego roadrash, but staff are coders and people who want to tell stories. They do not have the capabilities to even pretend to be able to handle the mental pressures this game occasionally presents.

By Risikio at Jul 16, 2025, 11:59 AM | 0
Hi friends, it's your friendly player forum mod here.

Bleed is a very delicate subject and something that likely everyone here has had to grapple with in one way or another. As this conversation continues, I want to remind people to be gentle with one another when it comes to this subject.

If you feel as though you have an OOC issue with someone else, please xhelp and speak with a staff member or email [email protected].

By F9DFCQ at Jul 16, 2025, 11:59 AM | 0
I had an ooc moment a while ago where there was a conversation in local ooc along the lines of, 'this is making me bleed hard, I need a moment' and it took seconds for.. I think it was Mench, God bless his sharp soul, to be there asking if all's well or if we need assistance.

I've also @noted a concern in the past and had it followed up, so yes, it's definitely something that's already watched for.

But, I think it's great to see the suggestion being made and it shows the absolute right level of compassion we should have for other players that we're telling stories with.

By Bix at Jul 16, 2025, 3:55 PM | 0
I have definitely @noted when I'm feeling like the punching bag and feeling the bleed. Never got a reply from staff but by the way things play out, I wouldn't doubt they are addressing it.

And I am not onboard with the 'well, they are having their fun' attitude as I have bailed from games multiple times in the past because of players that really seem to thrive on griefing others and often in groups coordinating in ways that would be strongly against the rules here.

I would expect that one particular group that comes to mind, that I ran into at multiple sites over the years has probably already shown their heads here at some time in the past and all been banned because they are never very good at hiding that they are a group of friends IRL that metagame the crap out of anyplace they play.

By wh1ppet at Jul 16, 2025, 11:25 PM | 0
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