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Increase PDS cap a bit

With cheaper chrome, I would propose that we also increase the PDS cap, especially on basic stats a bit.

Nothing more behind it, just to get more chrome into more people, its very affordable cash wise now, but still annoying in terms of @ue investment. Maybe we could make it that if you enter on starter stats, you can load a light PDS load chrome.

I don't think this would break anything, end game builds got spare PDS for other stuff anyway, and more chrome is good for everyone.

Agreed. Need to feed those chrome addictions.
Pretty happy with where PDS is right now, personally. Want more chrome than you should probably have? Time to find that shady ripper doc and listen to the PDS voices whisper in your ear.
PDS is fun though.
No disagreement, PDS be fun, but also its about 2 weeks of constant UE to fit even light chrome for a new chum. And so many competing priorities in this term, and ultimately first chrome is always the scariest, but also suckers you in.
Is it the PDS level that prevents truly insane chrome-monsters from walking around the city? or is it something else? The number of characters I've seen that made me really feel like I was in a chromed-up cyberpunk future are too few, in my opinion. I'm not sure what it would take to make people more dramatic and extravagant in their chrome usage, but whatever it is, I want it!
Is it the forced thinks and tells for PDS that make people so against rping it? There's this https://www.sindome.org/bgbb/development-discussion/script-development/pds-2.0-79/ that players worked on. I haven't had a chance to go through it yet.

Are there too many barriers to getting more chrome than is allowed? Are cyberdocs not incentivized enough to ignore it? I do think there are some people who should have huge reservations about getting PDS for RP reasons, but I'd honestly like to see even a bit more PDS around corpsec sometimes (though I have definitely seen it in the past).

I once had a partner RP PDS at me and it was pretty crazy. Added lots of tension. Good rp. I think players have shown a good understanding that PDS is a prevalent issue while not minimizing the scariness of it.

"Are there too many barriers to getting more chrome than is allowed? "

I believe many IC barriers are put up to try and curb PDS and not enough IC cybernetics specialists willing to side step it in the name of profit, but they are out there.

Quite frankly I would see it as more cyberpunk of institutions encouraged a certain level of PDS so that they could in turn market you the cure.

That feels exactly right Mindhunter.

Being -tough- enough to handle the PDS for the mix, or high-minded / elite enough topside, should be a status symbol / encouraged.

We are likely not going going to be adjusting PDS cap at this time. Lower prices on chrome does not mean the humanity cost of chopping away your flesh for it changes. That's my stance on a theme perspective. As far as PDS itself, there's already a good bit of room to install a variety of chrome builds. It doesn't take that long even for a new character to tolerate some chrome as long as they aren't trying to stuff their body with a bunch of high PDS pieces. It doesn't even take the two weeks the o.p. suggests so long as a new character invests in the right thing in chargen.

Furthermore, there are a number of ways to reduce PDS and/or stave off symptoms, and they stack.

And yes, I would personally like to see more people pushing the PDS limit and actually RPing appropriately (some of you do, thank you) when they hit it and especially when they go over it. Giving more room would do the opposite of that. Also, invasive PDS thought is the middle ground between not reminding players at all and forcing them to attack people when they go into an episode.

Finally, I agree that cyberdocs should be willing to blur the line with installs that give PDS, but that's a player culture thing. I think people should be taking more risks with their jobs in general instead of playing it safe (those of you that do play really safe).

Here's a hint that everyone (including cyberdocs) can use: the rules as you are given them from your NPC bosses etc. are meant to be broken. We want to see you break them in fun and creative ways and for your own gain. The trick isn't always in not being caught. It could be that you're so awesome/smart/clever/wealthy/useful etc. that you can get away it. And remember that being caught does not always mean losing your job (barring some really serious stuff usually). NPCs have their own goals, needs, ideologies, and vices - even your bosses. You can and probably should try to "reason" with them when you're in trouble or think you're in danger of being fired (unless you want to just give up and take the firing, that is). Not saying it will always work, but the option is there.

Hey Logic, thank you for your response. I know y’all are busy but do you think staff might be interested in voting about implementing the PDS 2.0 scripts that many of us in this community worked on? I think it would make PDS so much richer and engaging to RP.

https://www.sindome.org/bgbb/development-discussion/script-development/pds-2.0-79/

I can bring it up with staff, for sure.
Yay!!